Comments on: HTML5 is not about the death of Flash, but the return of browser innovation http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/ By Steven Wei Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:51:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sekhar Ravinutala http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Sekhar Ravinutala Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:42:24 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-85 Same here. I've been huge supporter, first of Flash and then of Flex, but have since switched to AJAX (GWT). I wish Flex weren't so heavy-weight and Adobe had a working, lightweight solution for mobile. Same here. I've been huge supporter, first of Flash and then of Flex, but have since switched to AJAX (GWT). I wish Flex weren't so heavy-weight and Adobe had a working, lightweight solution for mobile.

]]> By: That Guy http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-84 That Guy Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:55:52 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-84 Love this reply. Couldn't agree more with you. I started with flash and have since moved on. Love this reply. Couldn't agree more with you. I started with flash and have since moved on.

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]]> By: adrian http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-81 adrian Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:15:03 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-81 What never helped Sun and Java was how clunky the install experience for the user was. One thing is for sure, Adobe showed all other plug-in developers how to make the install and upgrading as seamless as possible. What never helped Sun and Java was how clunky the install experience for the user was. One thing is for sure, Adobe showed all other plug-in developers how to make the install and upgrading as seamless as possible.

]]> By: Adrian http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Adrian Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:12:07 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-82 Flash too is evolving. With the advent of the Flex framework and the improved performance of the Flash Player. Memory consumption is being reduced, and the rendering engine is becoming far more efficient in the Flash Player. It seems some people like to bring up 'older' versions of the Flash Player when talking about memory issues. That is like comparing current browsers to IE6, your not making any points except for the fact that IE6 was a dud and current browsers have improved, same goes for the Flash Player.<br><br>HTML5 will add to the developers tool set, and that is a good thing. Flash/Flex provides an application framework that goes beyond playing video or having cool effects. People have to understand this fact for anyone to have a rational discussion that doesn't end up in a 'you suck, no you suck' mindset. <br><br>HTML5 will not kill or replace Flash/Flex. At least not in the current incarnation of the Flash Platform. Both will evolve, use the best tool for the job. Flash too is evolving. With the advent of the Flex framework and the improved performance of the Flash Player. Memory consumption is being reduced, and the rendering engine is becoming far more efficient in the Flash Player. It seems some people like to bring up 'older' versions of the Flash Player when talking about memory issues. That is like comparing current browsers to IE6, your not making any points except for the fact that IE6 was a dud and current browsers have improved, same goes for the Flash Player.

HTML5 will add to the developers tool set, and that is a good thing. Flash/Flex provides an application framework that goes beyond playing video or having cool effects. People have to understand this fact for anyone to have a rational discussion that doesn't end up in a 'you suck, no you suck' mindset.

HTML5 will not kill or replace Flash/Flex. At least not in the current incarnation of the Flash Platform. Both will evolve, use the best tool for the job.

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]]> By: groksaurus http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-78 groksaurus Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:03:37 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-78 Well, let's see: I've used Flash for portfolio websites, corporate websites, website intro animations, video, kiosk applications, drawing applications, small games, larger games, digital scrapbooking applications, banner ads, web site headers, music players and slideshows. <br><br>What's left? Ah, yes, I know now. I should have been using Flash for this: <a href="http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf</a>. Now I understand what I've been doing wrong all these years: using the improper technology for the task! Thanks, RegularGuy, for informing me that I'm a bad developer based on my choices for projects whose nature you knew nothing of; I rely entirely on the judgments of people whose arguments have no substance with the exception of telling us that Flash can't reproduce sexually.<br><br>Let's just consider ourselves lucky that Flash can't make babies. If it did, those would be some ugly, CPU-eating, randomly segfaulting babies, sitting in one of four damn complicated sandboxes. Well, let's see: I've used Flash for portfolio websites, corporate websites, website intro animations, video, kiosk applications, drawing applications, small games, larger games, digital scrapbooking applications, banner ads, web site headers, music players and slideshows.

What's left? Ah, yes, I know now. I should have been using Flash for this: http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf. Now I understand what I've been doing wrong all these years: using the improper technology for the task! Thanks, RegularGuy, for informing me that I'm a bad developer based on my choices for projects whose nature you knew nothing of; I rely entirely on the judgments of people whose arguments have no substance with the exception of telling us that Flash can't reproduce sexually.

Let's just consider ourselves lucky that Flash can't make babies. If it did, those would be some ugly, CPU-eating, randomly segfaulting babies, sitting in one of four damn complicated sandboxes.

]]> By: RegularGuy http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-77 RegularGuy Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:27:02 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-77 You were using flash for the wrong purpose. Choose your technology based on what your purpose, not what you know.<br>You are just a bad developer who fail at making right choice for your projects. Dont blame your inefficiency on Flash.<br>In other news, Flash cant make babies. You were using flash for the wrong purpose. Choose your technology based on what your purpose, not what you know.
You are just a bad developer who fail at making right choice for your projects. Dont blame your inefficiency on Flash.
In other news, Flash cant make babies.

]]> By: uberVU - social comments http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-73 uberVU - social comments Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:11:23 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-73 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by stevenswei: HTML5 is not about the death of Flash, but the return of browser innovation http://bit.ly/cqqNvp... Social comments and analytics for this post…

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]]> By: Steven Wei http://www.stevenwei.com/2010/02/06/html5-is-not-about-the-death-of-flash-but-the-return-of-browser-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Steven Wei Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:21:15 +0000 http://www.stevenwei.com/?p=32#comment-76 Good point re: Java. Interesting that Sun is trying to get back into that space with JavaFX. Too bad they seem to have mostly missed the boat on that one. Good point re: Java. Interesting that Sun is trying to get back into that space with JavaFX. Too bad they seem to have mostly missed the boat on that one.

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